2009 crown victoria modules

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kpj
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2009 crown victoria modules

Post by kpj » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:59 pm

Hi,
First time user for FORScan, so don't know is everything working like it should. I have a obd scanner from ccy.pl (INTERFACE OBD2 STN1170 USB CCY) and i'm trying to enable remote keyless entry system. I've read that the hardware is in all Vics between 2008-2011, but it's only stuff i've read from forums, so can't really confirm that. So i connected the obd and turned on the FORScan for the first time, btw. it has extended lisence. Everything seems ok and i have the correct car details, but the HSCAN modules are only:
- PCM
- OBDII
- ABS
- IC
So should there be more modules available and is my car missing the module for rke? Just to make sure if i'm doing something wrong and not seeing all the modules...
Thanks

ThatOneDude
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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by ThatOneDude » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:17 am

You'll need to check that your ELM adapter is compatible with MS-CAN. On that network, you will have the Driver's Door Module (DDM), Lighting Control Module (LCM), and Climate Control Module if you have Automatic controls.

All hardware is indeed identical from 2008 to 2011.

Your DDM will have your RKE and TPMS settings, and your LCM will have anything lighting related including the Dark Car Mode.
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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by kpj » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:09 am

Ok, thanks. That's why I don't see the ddm module. That elm adapter I have should support ms-can also, but there's no switch on it. It should somehow switch the can modes itself. So is there an option in the FORScan settings that forces it to use ms-can over hs-can or is my only option to buy elm adapter with a switch?

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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by ThatOneDude » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:17 pm

I'm not familiar with your adapter, but my OBDLink MX automatically switches. It also has an STN series chipset, but I'm not 100% sure if it's the same as yours or not.

Edit: OBDLink's website says it uses a modified STN1170 for better transmission speed. You should support MS-CAN out of the box. Try removing the vehicle profile from FORScan and connect again. If it asks if you have a switch, say yes even though you don't.
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kpj
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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by kpj » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:23 pm

Thanks again. I'll try it again tomorrow to see what happens and report back...

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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by kpj » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:49 pm

So I looked and looked, but still can't seem to find any other modules. Tried to disconnect and connect with different settings and still no. Then I looked the obd port and found one topic here where the pins are explained and my obd doesn't have pins in ms-can places. Doesn't look that someone would have done something to wires either. I found a one topic also with a similar kind of problem and someone suggested that adapter needs to support j1850 protocol. Can't find any details that does my adapter support that or not. So, do you think it's a adapter problem?
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ThatOneDude
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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by ThatOneDude » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:18 am

I'll compare with my 2011's OBD connector when I have time and get back to you.
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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by bmarler » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:41 pm

does the car even have ms-can modules? i didn't think so. when i scanned my 2011 ltc it only found hs-can modules. it never asked for switching to ms-can.
on a related subject, when i went to back up the as-built mapping, it didn't seem to get much. i'm going to try it again as i can't remember the exact error message i got.

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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by ThatOneDude » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:46 am

You might be right. Now that I'm looking at the wiring diagram for the Module Communications Network, I'm seeing HS-CAN and SCP (J1850). An entry level adapter may not support SCP.

Now that I have 3 vehicles which each use different networks, I mix them up.
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Re: 2009 crown victoria modules

Post by kpj » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:45 pm

Thanks for the answers! Might be my adapter, but in a couple of days I'll try my friends elm adapter to see what it says. That should be the original elm, so hope it works. Will report back when I've tried it....

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