2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

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SIGNAL20K9
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2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by SIGNAL20K9 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:16 pm

I have a 2008 F150 and don't have access to very many of the modules. When I open FORScan and connect, it asks: This vehicle may contain UBP modules. Does your ELM adapter have ISO/UBP switch? I currently have a OBD Link MX+ adapter. Do I need another adapter? Am I doing something wrong? Can someone recommend an adapter or point me in the right direction? Thanks!

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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by ThatOneDude » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:00 am

FORScan was working on UBP at one time, but last I heard, that development has ceased. The only way to access UBP modules is with Ford's own software. I use IDS and a VCM2.
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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by SIGNAL20K9 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:02 am

ThatOneDude wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:00 am
FORScan was working on UBP at one time, but last I heard, that development has ceased. The only way to access UBP modules is with Ford's own software. I use IDS and a VCM2.
Where did you get the IDS and VCM2? Can you post a link? I see them anywhere from $85 all the way to $5000! I have a laptop I can use if that helps me out.

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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by ThatOneDude » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:07 am

I recommend the VCX Nano. They usually send it out with a disk or a download link for a VM with IDS preinstalled. Works wonders in my CVPIs and Expy. I have issues with the application crashing when connecting to the F-150 though. I think it's just mine though, because it connected fine to my buddy's truck.

If you go for a VCM II clone, keep an eye out for missing components on the clone boards. I was screwed by a seller on one of these clones. Paid to send it back to China and never got a refund since eBay didn't have my back.
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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by tractmec » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:01 pm

Hi SIGNAL20K9

I will correct Thatonedude on one point in that UBP support for VCM2s only, has been available in Forscan since Version 2.3.09 as I helped to develop it!

In fact I had my VCM2 connected to both my UBP vehicles yesterday

The reason you see a request for a switch to ISO/UBP is because in trying to develop UBP support for ELM based adapters, the Forscan development team was attempting to modify a kline protocol and use the same procedure used for MSCAN support to read the UBP bus. As of the last communication I had with them they were continuing to look for a solution but all attempts have failed so far but the switch request has been left in in hope of finding a method.

As for the VCXNano, the one I have has never connected to either of my UBP equipped vehicles without erring out in Forscan or crashing the test man run time in IDS which is why i opted for the C177-C China clone and have not been disappointed although they have been out of stock as of late!

Hope that clears up some confusion?
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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by ThatOneDude » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:26 am

Nice. I wasn't aware any progress had been made. That also explains the testman crashes I get when trying to connect my VCX Nano to my 2007 F-150. Still not sure I want to invest in a VCM II though. On the fence about selling off the 2007. It's a good truck and all, but my Expy has turned out to be even better a truck than I had planned.
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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by SIGNAL20K9 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am

tractmec

That does help. Where or what adapter do you suggest then? I Googled C177-C and don’t find anything. Any links you can provide? I’m still a newb, so any help is greatly appreciated!

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Re: 2008 F150 ISO/UBP MODULES

Post by tractmec » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:47 pm

Hi SIGNAL20K9

I will have to correct my self as I am an old man and my fingers get on the wrong keys and my memory is not as good as it used to be!

The model number should be "SP177-C or C1"(has wireless capability) but unfortunately they seem to be out of stock where I bought my mine at http://www.obdexpress.co.uk. They are offering an SP177-1 as an A quality replacement.

A poster named dstirrup on the MHH Auto Forum was testing an SP177-2, "supposed Good Quality"(His Words) from http://www.eobdtool.co.uk which seems to be the only A quality one that can be found now and you have to search for SP177 on that web site to find it. I have not found a follow up post of his tests as of yet.
The p.c. board pictures of all these appear to be the same pictures so I would not use that to make any decision!

The quality of these last Chinese clones seems to be all over the place and even all of the high quality ones have trouble according to another post I read some time ago says that PCM programing is impossible with these on older PCMs because of low voltage on pin 13.

I have not had occasion to try it so I cannot comment on that. I have done a reconfiguration with IDS v86 Patched on the climate controlled seats in the Expy and a re flash of the Electronic Power steering gear unit replacement as well as running all of the PSCM PIDs, in order to help center the steering wheel, with Forscan in my Wifes 2010 Fusion and both worked perfectly.

I thought you should have as much of the facts as i have discovered and I am not endorsing either site, just this is what seems to be available out there now.

Hope this is of some help?

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