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92truckguy
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Upgrade radio?

Post by 92truckguy » Sun May 05, 2019 8:22 pm

Have 2019 F150 XLT with basic AM/FM, Bluetooth.
Want to upgrade to radio with CD player, either HD or Sat(don't care about Sirius) just take what I can find.
Will any ACM from 2015-2018 do? if not, what hardware should I look for? After that, what blocks do I have to manipulate to enable?
All help is most appreciated.

Don Ridley
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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by Don Ridley » Mon May 06, 2019 4:19 am

Start with these resources:

Livinitup at the F150 forum decoded the ACM configuration. His spreadsheet is the Forscan modification bible.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =338817466

https://www.fordescape.org/forum/3g-ele ... 162?page=4
Tutorial
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8d ... xIqxY/edit


The F-150 forums should be able to answer if the 2019 ACM is similar to older units.

If they are similar, here are some of the thing you need to do or learn:
1. What is the part number for the ACM in each model year? They may change slightly from year to year.
2. What is the part number for the different options in the ACM. Standard radio had an -Ax suffix and HD radio had a Cx suffix on the part number for my Ford vehicle. I used salvage parts websites and ebay to figure this out. I bought my ACM from a salvage yard.
3. Do you have the small or large LCD center display? HD and Sat ACMs were designed to use the large display and communicate on the CAN. the small display uses LIN. I got an HD radio ACM to work on the small display but I don't get the HD icon when tuned to a HD station. Sat radio will need the large display and extra antenna.
4. Configuring the ACM with Forscan is easy and it is unlikely you can brick it.
5. When you find a donor ACM, connect it and see if it works. It is just a radio and should not damage anything if it is configured wrong. Read the DTCs to see what you need to change.

The F-150 spreadsheet is accurate but many options require a premium ACM (Sony). It takes a while to understand all the settings and abbreviations (I Googled many of them).

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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by 92truckguy » Mon May 06, 2019 3:04 pm

Thanks for the info! Guess I have some research... I have the 8" screen and sync 3.3

92truckguy
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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by 92truckguy » Mon May 06, 2019 6:43 pm

Wow! So confusing on radios. some end with "E", some "F" as well as A and C.

Here's what I have now: RU-9754P-A
KL3T-18D832-AG

What upgrade should I be looking for? E-Bay has some, But I'm at a loss already...

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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by Don Ridley » Mon May 06, 2019 9:47 pm

Pick a model year you think will work, like 2017. Search for standard ACMs using Google and eBay. A salvage yard will usually list the part number. Then look for same model year HD/sat ACMs. Compare part numbers.

My ACM is: DT1T-19C107-CE
The numbers are similar across Ford platforms.
DT1T: may specify the vehicle and physical layout
19C107: may be the software version/ functions
CE- defines options like HD and sat

Photos may show the extra sat antenna connector to aid your search. Pull your existing ACM to verify fitment.

Once you have the PN you can search for the best deal.

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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by Don Ridley » Mon May 06, 2019 10:03 pm


laborrega
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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by laborrega » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:06 am

Any luck? I’m on the same boat. 2016 ACM installed in a 2019.

Rickfire
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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by Rickfire » Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:08 pm

I hope this helps, I am not expert at this by any means. Thanks to livinitup and Don Ridley for taking their time posting helpful info. I just changed my acm out on my 2019 F150 to gain hd radio. I printed the as built data for my vin from the Ford maintenance website. Because it was difficult to find a late model acm similar to the 2018/2019 JL3Z-18C869-FJ ( hd/sat radio model) I swapped in a 2016 acm from a Lincoln Mkz. I went into the ACIM and changed 7D0-01-01 from 2A2A 0006 0033 to 2A2A 0007 0033 to turn on hd radio single climate control. Restarted the truck and radio worked but had no volume control (full volume). I then tried to load my as built ACM file previously saved into the used acm to no avail. It seems like Forscan gives you a file opening error is the module entries are vastly different between each other. I then went into the used Lincoln acm and manually changed 727-01-01 through 727-04-01 to match the printed as built for my vehicle. After doing this the volume worrked and I had hd radio but no presets would work and some of the on screen menu items did not work. I reset the sync3 by hitting power and forward button for 5 seconds (reboot) and all controls returned with the exception of the presets. The major difference that I found was that my original acm had only four lines 727-01-01 through 727-04-01 and the older acm has 727-01-01 through 727-08-04 with the latter lines of code from 727-05 being for presets. I gathered that by studying livinitup’s spreadsheets. Sadly everything works fine except the presets. It appears that the new acm does not have presets controlled from within. The older one does and therefore seems to be the conflict. I assume that finding a closer match to my original KL3T-18D832-BH non hd radio would resolve this problem.

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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by Don Ridley » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

Rickfire wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:08 pm
I hope this helps, I am not expert at this by any means.
Ha,ha...now you are the expert. Good work. While you wait for a crashed 2019 F150 to donate an ACM, maybe you can find out if the 2016 ACM can be configured to read presets from the SYNC system or wherever they are now stored. Is a SYNC setting overriding the presets in the 2016 ACM? Is the 2016 ACM configured to read the internal presets and can this be changed? There may be a hex bit you can change to get the 2016 ACM working. It's a longshot but you may get lucky. Don't give up yet!

FYI, I upgraded to HD using the same model year ACM. But my basic SYNC1 system does not display the HD radio logo even though HD is being received.

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Re: Upgrade radio?

Post by laborrega » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:24 pm

Rickfire wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:08 pm
I hope this helps, I am not expert at this by any means. Thanks to livinitup and Don Ridley for taking their time posting helpful info. I just changed my acm out on my 2019 F150 to gain hd radio.
Subscribed. Same exact boat you are in.

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