2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

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godfrey
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2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

Post by godfrey »

Hello all,

From what I gathered last night, my 2017 Ford Expedition EL Limited does not have the DDM or PDM, thus having the mirrors fold themselves in and out when I lock/unlock the vehicle is not possible. Correct? Is it perhaps somewhere else or this is just a no go?


Had hopes! :)


Thanks in advance,


Phil
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Re: 2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

Post by Ecmbuster »

Depending on the trim level, side mirror type and if the mirror switch is available, that function may not exist or not known.
You refer to the DDM and PDM on the F150 and other models
There needs some serious hacking to the BCM or DSM (Driver Seat Module) if available.
Again depending on the model and if either the BCM or DSM can recognize the commands to move the mirror positions via locking.
A Module scan gives a glimpse of what is installed in that model.
Here is an example:
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Re: 2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

Post by godfrey »

Thanks for the reply. That's something I'll have to look into and probe around with later. I'll post a reply afterwards.


According to motorcraftservice.com/AsBuilt (forgive the formatting for being wonky)

PCM Modules

PCM 1 FFFF FFFF FF0C
PCM 2 FFFF FFFF FF0D
PCM 3 FFFF 0FFF 4463
PCM 4 FFFF 2FFF 2161
PCM 5 2FFF FFFF FF40
PCM 6 FFFF FFFF FF11
PCM 7 FFFF FFFF FF12
PCM 8 FFFF FFFF FF13
PCM 9 FFFF FFFF FF14

BCE Modules

7C4-01-01 04D1
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7C6-07-01 07DC
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7C6-08-02 00D7
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7C6-09-04 23FD
7C6-10-01 01D3 140D 03D6
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7C6-10-05 0032 0118 002D
7C6-10-06 00E3
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7D0-01-02 0283 0000 0A69
7D0-02-01 5553 0104 40C7
7D0-02-02 0200 8000 005D
7D0-02-03 0005 E1
7D0-03-01 0000 0003 00DE
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720-04-02 5553 08DD
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720-07-02 0200 0032
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726-01-01 0000 002F
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godfrey
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Re: 2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

Post by godfrey »

Here's what I got. Thank you again! :)


Phil
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Re: 2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

Post by tractmec »

godfrey wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:33 pm
Here's what I got. Thank you again! :)


Phil
Although you did not include the contents of the module list Tab as per ECM's example, from what you have included it is likely this vehicle's trim level does not have the required modules(Drivers door and Passenger Door modules) and most likely does not have the fold motors in the mirror mounts either!

Without physically installing all the required hardware(Modules and capable mirrors)and the configuring the software I would say it is not possible on this vehicle!
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Re: 2017 Expedition EL Limited (DDM PDM) mirror folding

Post by godfrey »

They do fold, you just have to actuate it via the joystick on the door panel by pulling it back.

I spoke to the Ford dealership today while looking for some black 3M double sided adhesive and he said since they don't have the DDM and PDM, the function won't be possible. It's confusing as to why they would have eliminated it.

Oh well...lots of other things to do, so thank you very much for the replies!


All the best,


Phil

tractmec wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:45 pm
godfrey wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:33 pm
Here's what I got. Thank you again! :)


Phil
Although you did not include the contents of the module list Tab as per ECM's example, from what you have included it is likely this vehicle's trim level does not have the required modules(Drivers door and Passenger Door modules) and most likely does not have the fold motors in the mirror mounts either!

Without physically installing all the required hardware(Modules and capable mirrors)and the configuring the software I would say it is not possible on this vehicle!
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