OBDlink EX USB Ford Transit 1995

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remy16
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OBDlink EX USB Ford Transit 1995

Post by remy16 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:59 pm

Hello FORscan community
I just tried the Obdlink EX USB module.
It is recognized by the PC (W7) but it does not recognize the 1995 Ford Transit 2.5l TD vehicle. The vehicle is equipped with a 16-pin obd socket and a 95V89J464 AA computer.
Could someone tell me the correct parameters to set for obdlink EX,
Thank you
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Re: OBDlink EX USB

Post by f-wolf » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:25 pm

remy16 wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:59 pm
Hello FORscan community
I just tried the Obdlink EX USB module.
It is recognized by the PC (W7) but it does not recognize the 1995 Ford Transit 2.5l TD vehicle. The vehicle is equipped with a 16-pin obd socket and a 95V89J464 AA computer.
Could someone tell me the correct parameters to set for obdlink EX,
Thank you
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Your 1995 Ford Transit is too old !!

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remy16
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Re: OBDlink EX USB

Post by remy16 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:22 am

... then no solution for me?
... no adapter, nothing to get from the 6 active pins of the socket?
Thank you for your ideas

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Re: OBDlink EX USB Ford Transit 1995

Post by tractmec » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:11 pm

remy16 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:22 am
... then no solution for me?
... no adapter, nothing to get from the 6 active pins of the socket?
Thank you for your ideas
Afraid not, at least as far as Forscan and the OBD-2 standard is concerned, as OBD-1 was rendered obsolete with the 1995 model year in favour of ODB-2 starting in 1996! Forscan and ELM327 based Adapters only work with OBD-2 from 1996 to the present.

You are attempting to connect an OBD-2 standard adapter to an OBD-1 standard Connector and if you look carefully and compare the two you will see that the connector shape is completely different not to mention the Electronic and Data Differences!

If you actually got your EX adapter plugged in to that socket you are very lucky if you did not damage it both mechanically and possibly electronically!

You would have to find an OBD-1 Adapter to read anything on this vehicle and OBD-1 was mostly for diagnostics and did very little programming.

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Re: OBDlink EX USB Ford Transit 1995

Post by remy16 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:25 pm

... as you can see on the photo the hardware connection of the OBD port of my vehicle is identical to an OBD2. For this reason it connects without damage. Are there OBD1 / 2 adapters? Thank you.

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Re: OBDlink EX USB Ford Transit 1995

Post by tractmec » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:15 pm

remy16 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:25 pm
... as you can see on the photo the hardware connection of the OBD port of my vehicle is identical to an OBD2. For this reason it connects without damage. Are there OBD1 / 2 adapters? Thank you.
With a closer look, yes it does have 16 holes for connections and the shape is close enough to the OBD-2 socket in order to plug in!
This looks like an OBD-2 transition connector and could possibly be an early introduction of the OBD-2 Standard, perhaps Late 1995 early 1996 Production? The build date on the Door pillar would probably give you an Idea.

The Pin assignment that is in your Image has what looks like it should be J1850/SCP/PWM pins in the 2+ and 10- locations and if those two actually are J1850 pins then Forscan should have responded with a read of at least the PCM, assuming you are getting 12V+ Live on pin 16 to Ground. Pins 4 and 5 Should also be grounded. Pin 13 is a Programming pin for the PCM in the later Fords OBD2 Connector.

Can't say for sure what you actually have here But if it is an early OBD-2 Connector with the J1850 pins in the right places but it may be a PCM that the Forscan team has never worked with or it is not an SAEJ1850 standard that is is being communicated. If so Forscan probably can't help you!

May have to do some Internet searches on 1995-1996 Transits and/or send your logs and dump.bin file in to Forscan and ask them if Forscan and an EX adapter can read anything on this vehicle or is it Ford Diagnostics like the old WDS or IDS only!

Also this forum may give you some more Ideas https://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic ... elm327&c=1.

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Re: OBDlink EX USB Ford Transit 1995

Post by remy16 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:16 am

Big thank you tractmec for your interest and for this relevant answer.
I am in contact with the FORscan.org team who are looking for a solution.
Thanks also for the link to the Ford Transit forum. I'm trying to get in touch with member transit9292 whom I have read on other forums before, but failed to contact ...
I'll keep you posted on what's next.
See you soon

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