Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

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Sattech200
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Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by Sattech200 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:33 am

Good evening everyone!

I recently installed a remote car start in my 1999 ford explorer. Currently I am just leaving my ignition in the car so I can use my remote car starter. I would LOVE to disable the PATS security system entirely if there's any way possible? I would greatly appreciate any help or assistance in doing this.

Thankk you

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Re: Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by Juice » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:19 pm

Not with Forscan. You need to disable it in the PCM.

Now, if it is just for getting the remote starter working, what I've read putting a transponder keys under the dash as close to the sensor ring around the ignition as possible. As long as PATS can detect the key, it will work.

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Re: Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by ibmp200 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:55 am

Juice, you stated earlier that P A T S cannot be disabled with FORScan, but in the P C M. doesnt forscan access the P C M? if it doesnt access it to disable that system, do we need to spend a few hundred or thousand dollars and buy the scanners dealerships use? or do we need to spend more money and use an expensive J2534 adaptor with elm327?

what specifically can we do to disable it through the data link connector?

--i want to entirely disable the P A T S in a 2007 Ford Ranger

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Re: Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by Juice » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:40 am

Forscan can access PCM for diagnostics only at this time. The PATS "switch" is in the calibration of the PCM "aka" the tune. So you need a tuner like SCT, HP tuners, or Diablosport WITH THE SOFTWARE. The handheld alone doesn't have access to disable it.

Ps: the PCM configuration that became available recently in Forscan is still in development/testing. I contacted the Forscan team and they told me that cannot disable PATS either.

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Re: Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by ibmp200 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:30 am

I see, than kyou Juice. What would be a great tuner that I could use for the P A T S, and other tweaking??

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Re: Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by Juice » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:43 am

ibmp200 wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:30 am
I see, than kyou Juice. What would be a great tuner that I could use for the P A T S, and other tweaking??
Generally, SCT is the preferred solution for Fords.

I'm not sure which tuner has the best support for your truck. But, in order to turn off pats, you will need to buy the hardware (handheld device) and get the software or pay a tuner shop to turn off PATS in a custom tune for you. And you will likely be looking at ~$700. The handheld device by itself does not have access to disable PATS, that needs to be turned off with the software (sold separately). I would search Ranger forums to see what guys are using. Each of the tuners I listed have their own advantages and disadvantages.

Check out https://eectuning.org/forums/ These guys really get into DYI tuning. You may be able to use a "piggyback" chip on yours and not have to spend quite as much $$$,

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Re: Can I disable PATS on my 1999 Ford Explorer?

Post by ibmp200 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:44 am

okay, great! thank you Juice.

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