2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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Re: 2021 f150 BDS 6” lift with 35’s front camera fault service required

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I made a YouTube video to show all the Forscan problems, its 12min long

https://youtu.be/xaeeLJb19LE
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Re: 2021 f150 BDS 6” lift with 35’s front camera fault service required

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Ecmbuster wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:56 pm
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One or more controllers have faults within the network, those faults need to be known.
Post all the faults.
TRM U0143:87-0B
IPMA C1001:54-2F
IPMA U0415:86-28
IPMA U2107:68-2F
GSM Error
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Re: 2021 f150 BDS 6” lift with 35’s front camera fault service required

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All of those faults are a direction towards communication errors and what ever was changed, reconfigured the installed controllers on the network.
You will need to have that truck back to the dealer and have them perform a global update. Global meaning everything will require the correct strategy and software to fit that vehicle.

This has been mentioned many times with these new Ford models and their protected networks.
Anything with a Driver Assist System is likely diagnosed over IP (Internet Protocol)
Anything that is misaligned will require the used of ADAS software/hardware in the worst case.
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Re: 2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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Why wont Ford fix this. Here is todays run around
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Re: 2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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It's not a run around, that model was never designed with that type of suspension.
The camera / optics and software can not calibrate it itself.
The system is blind because of the lift.
The highway barriers with the reflectors, street / highway signs, warning signs and moving objects are at a much lower level than that particular vehicle with an added lift kit.
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Re: 2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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I didn't have the error messages after the lift was installed. It popped up a few weeks later.
Why do I see dozen's of new lifted 2021 F150 weekly? Hell my next door neighbor has a 21 F150 with my exact lift setup.
Why am I the only one with this issue? Time to think outside the box.
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Re: 2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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Having read this post and having had issues calibrating my own IMPA, i know its not easy to achieve. My thoughts are as follows
1. ECMBuster is correct the front camera is an optical device with preset angle of view, at the standard ride height, if you increase this with new larger wheels then clearly this angle is altered. 1 option may be to re angle the camera to compensate (not easy on a windscreen)
Think of a cctv camera pointing at a doorway, if you increase its height you would loose the bottom half of the door, unless you re angle it. The calibration software cannot compensate as it was never designed to do so, hence failure.
2. There are options within the IMPA and other modules to alter wheel sizes and ride height, have these been carried out when the new wheels were fitted?
3. Ford are also correct if the vehicle is returned to stock and all now works correctly, the fault is definitely the wheels, therefore no longer their problem. You cannot design equipment to work on every possibility, its just not possible, too many scenarios. As long as it works on the vehicle its designed to then thats no longer their problem.
4. Whilst you say you see lots of vehicles around with increased ride heights, this may be true, but you dont know if they have same issues, or may have disabled the options and not bother with IPMA, possibly their new ride heights fell within the vehicles capability parameters. Truth is i don't know. But sometimes things work and on others they just don't.
5. A lot of electronic modules these days have watchdog circuitry built in, ie they expect a certain type of data from that unit, if they receive that then all is well, however if it continually gets data thats not the same as expected, it logs it internally until a threshold point is reached then logs a warning lamp or dtc, this is probably why it worked initially then flagged up later. Note it was already calibrated at that point.
Conclusion
If it were mine i would remove the larger wheels, refit the standard wheels as suggested, calibrate the camera, then use it as normal see if fault re appears, if it does then there's a fault within IMPA, if not then you have a decision to make, larger wheels or safety system.
Know which I'd want.
Please bear in mind If camera is faulty, Ford may charge you stating you made changes to the vehicle, ie wheels and amending config, therefore not covered under warranty.
Good luck, hope you find a solution.
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Re: 2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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The dealership has blocked me from talking to them. I'm replacing this front camera. Too bad none are for sale.
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Re: 2021 f150 BDS 6” lift with 35’s front camera fault service required

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Ecmbuster wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:44 pm
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All of those faults are a direction towards communication errors and what ever was changed, reconfigured the installed controllers on the network.
You will need to have that truck back to the dealer and have them perform a global update. Global meaning everything will require the correct strategy and software to fit that vehicle.

This has been mentioned many times with these new Ford models and their protected networks.
Anything with a Driver Assist System is likely diagnosed over IP (Internet Protocol)
Anything that is misaligned will require the used of ADAS software/hardware in the worst case.
((You will need to have that truck back to the dealer and have them perform a global update. Global meaning everything will require the correct strategy and software to fit that vehicle.)) - Is this the same thing as restoring all the modules with asbuild?
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Re: 2021 f150 front camera fault service required

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I would suggest that if you have a Belron / Safelite Glass shop you could call them and see if they are willing to do a pre scan and or attemt a calibration. In Canada the Speedy Glass Shops use the Bosch ADAS tool and we are able to read all kinds of modules with it. Even old codes that don't show up using Snap-on scan tools show up. I can say I have calibrated a very large number of f150 pickups all with the same sensor array as the 2021 and have never had an issue. Just did a lariat with 37s on it passed al the same. The vehicle does need to be driven for 15 mins or so for the calibration to be performed.
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