PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

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Need testers for PATS function in 2008-2010 FG Falcon

Post by FORScan » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:36 pm

We need testers to complete PATS programming testing for 2008-2010 FG Falcon. The problem is that the function requires an adapter with seamless HS/MS CAN switching (OBDLink MX+/BT, ELS27, OBDLink SX modified with DC-DC relay etc). The function was delivered with status "experimental" in 2.3.19, but it seems it is not always working properly as recently one Falcon was bricked using it. The owner doesn't want to assist in resolving the problem and the car will go to a dealer. It seems we will have to remove the function from public FORScan release until it is confirmed as working reliable enough.

So we are looking for a tester. Requirements are:
- Adapter with seamless HS/MS CAN switching as mentioned above
- Readiness to have some (short, as we hope) time without car in case of something goes wrong (there may be 2 or even more test iterations)

Please do not place your proposal here but PM or email us.

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Re: PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

Post by AFR » Mon May 13, 2019 8:15 am

Don't blame the BCM. Ford call it GEM. A new replacement GEM is now a MK2 version. MK2 PATS has a different method (security clearance only) ie not incode /outcode. I have done The Mk1 without issue with both Forscan and IDS. Issue can arise as the all door closed must be closed inc boot. If you want a guinea pig , I have Mk1 and Mk2 and FGX's to try.

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Re: PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

Post by fg_g6e » Thu May 16, 2019 12:05 pm

Actually ford have now superseded all FG1,FG2 to a FGX BEM. PATS is pretty much the same between FG1,FG2/FGX Differences is FG1 PATS is part of the instrument cluster which requires a parameter reset. FG2 & FGX clusters are configured via central car configuration.

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Re: PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

Post by AFR » Fri May 17, 2019 10:46 am

If you fit a BEM with part number starting with ER2 you cannot do a parameter reset or key programming. PATS in FG2 onwards involves more than just the BCM and PCM now. It also Incorporates IC as well . Ford went form 128 bit encryption to 256 Bit Encryption for Pats and have not released the coding to scan tool companies . Only know of one company barr Ford dealer that can do it but it takes 12 hrs plus with continuous internet connection with ignition on car on and bem module in keep alive mode. 419-10-11 in the FGX manual explains the sequence of events. That's why you can get a start and run for 2 secs after you disconnect the battery, but once the IC is challenged the IC with immobilise.

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Re: PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

Post by fg_g6e » Sat May 18, 2019 12:31 am

Interesting read ill have to read the workshop manual agian.
I can confirm the FGX BEM does work in a FG1 when i was working at ford i installed an FGX bem to my 08 G6E and did a parameter reset and PMI via the ford ids as per FG1 all done in 25 minutes. Also gained some new features going to a FGX bem.

Also ALL SZ1 Territory now use a SZ2 BEM

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Re: PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

Post by FORScan » Sat May 25, 2019 6:21 am

Function for 2008-2010 FG has being successfully tested (confrimed as working by 2 testers) and will be included in the nearest release (2.3.23). So we guess the issue is closed. Function for FG Mk2 is not developed yet but will do.

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Re: PATS for 2010 FG Falcon

Post by STEVE.B » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:36 pm

That is great news, any idea when this version will be released?

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